Lavonne joins us from the Wind River Rez in Wyoming. She is the owner of the Facebook Group, The Original Ghost Stories from the Rez. In this episode she shares her experiences with a Clown Spirit, a Death Car, 17 Mile Bridge, Hatman, Little People, Bigfoot, and More!
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[00:00:54] I hear the first officer call out. And the first officer jumps on the radio and he screams, holy sh**, it's a goat man.
[00:01:11] And I mean it's just like everything went quiet. I could hear the ringing in my ears and I could feel my heart race. So I hit my life and I went.
[00:01:26] I've been told by some older people, elders there. You grab them and you hold them and you don't own them but you hold them there until daylight.
[00:01:38] If you can hold them or pull them into the light it destroys anything they have. Any kind of power or anything they were trying to do to you it'll destroy them.
[00:01:51] This guy was like bouncing. Like you know like how you see people kind of getting ready to jig? You know how they kind of bounce?
[00:02:00] Yeah he was like that way. He was just kind of bouncing and he was just kind of going back and forth and one foot to the other.
[00:02:07] And he just kind of turned sideways and he turned back over to the other way and he took off. Oh, he should have jumped in Wanda.
[00:02:16] Hello and welcome back. You're listening to Lodge Tales and I'm your host Rod Williamson.
[00:02:23] This episode we have the owner of the original ghost stories from the Rez. It's a Facebook group where Native Americans write in their ghost stories.
[00:02:34] And her page has a lot of followers and if you're not a follower of her page I would encourage you to get on Facebook and search up the original ghost stories from the Rez.
[00:02:47] And it's full of so many stories from different people, different reservations.
[00:02:53] I mean all the way from down south up to Alaska.
[00:02:57] There's a lot of content there and I would really encourage you guys to go to her page and you know request to become a member of the group and enjoy all the content she has.
[00:03:38] There's tons there.
[00:04:06] There's tons there.
[00:04:09] Why does it look the way it looks and all this.
[00:04:13] So if anybody has any ideas on this that's from the Wind River Reservation please write to me and let me know what your thoughts are.
[00:04:24] Maybe even come on the podcast and explain.
[00:04:29] Maybe even if anybody has any ideas on this.
[00:04:30] I really appreciate her coming on the show and you know I took a little break here and I'm back.
[00:04:39] I got a few episodes, a few interviews coming up here so hopefully this week I can get to all those and by the weekend put out more content.
[00:04:48] But I might, it might be even next week that I put out the rest of them.
[00:04:53] So we'll see how that goes.
[00:04:55] But thanks for joining us and let's get into the show here.
[00:05:02] Hello, my name is Yvonne Rodriguez.
[00:05:09] I own Ghost Stories from the Res and I'm here with Rod telling my story.
[00:05:16] Where I come from is the Wind River Res.
[00:05:19] My daughter, they have this car that goes around at night and they say it's real fancy.
[00:05:26] My daughter, my youngest daughter saw it like up close.
[00:05:29] She said it's like a hearse, like an old time fancy hearse.
[00:05:35] And we had a police officer come into our reservation and you know start controlling and stuff.
[00:05:43] He pulled over, he called up to dispatch and he pulled over this real fancy black car.
[00:05:49] And he called up to dispatch and told them that he was going to run some names.
[00:05:54] So he walked up to the window and knocked on the window.
[00:05:59] The driver opened it and he looked in the back and he seen all the boys sitting back there.
[00:06:07] And he asked, well, you know, what's going on?
[00:06:11] And the driver said nothing.
[00:06:13] He said, we're just driving around and see for people we need to pick up.
[00:06:18] And so he's like, okay.
[00:06:20] He's like, I need all the names.
[00:06:21] And so the driver gave them the name of the boys that were sitting in the back.
[00:06:26] But see, while they were sitting in the back, when the police looked in,
[00:06:29] they said that there was like a mist, like a smoking mist in the back.
[00:06:34] And those boys were just staring into space.
[00:06:38] Weird.
[00:06:39] And like, yeah, like they had no emotion, nothing.
[00:06:44] Like they were lost.
[00:06:46] Yeah.
[00:06:47] Yeah.
[00:06:49] And so the police officer said, okay, well, I need all the names.
[00:06:53] And he pulled, you know how to get on the radio and for dispatch?
[00:06:59] And talking to dispatch.
[00:07:01] And he started telling them, hey, look, these are the names of these boys.
[00:07:05] And the dispatch got scared.
[00:07:07] He said, get away from that car now.
[00:07:10] And he's like, why, what's going on?
[00:07:12] He said, all the boys you described are deceased.
[00:07:18] He turned and looked at the driver.
[00:07:21] And the driver started changing into like an evil clown.
[00:07:25] And he started laughing real wicked.
[00:07:27] And I guess he drove off.
[00:07:32] But my sister was working with a person.
[00:07:35] And they knew the lady who showed up at the EMT.
[00:07:39] Yeah.
[00:07:40] And she told, she told my sister.
[00:07:42] And she's a white woman.
[00:07:44] She told my sister all of that is true.
[00:07:46] She said when we found him, he was talking, we were talking to someone, but no one was there.
[00:07:52] He said he didn't, he went crazy, you know.
[00:07:55] And she said, I saw the whole thing.
[00:08:00] So, I guess he was talking to them, but no one else saw him.
[00:08:07] Dang, isn't that?
[00:08:08] See, my wife's God, what is it, Goddaughter, she's from down there.
[00:08:15] And she's going to school in the town we live in.
[00:08:18] And she was just here a couple of nights ago.
[00:08:21] And she was talking about that car and those clowns.
[00:08:26] Yeah.
[00:08:28] So, I mean, and she, you know, I've heard that from two different places now, describing the same thing.
[00:08:37] Yeah.
[00:08:38] Are there any more stories about that clown that you know?
[00:08:41] Yeah, I saw it.
[00:08:43] Oh.
[00:08:45] I used to live in what we call Nuput Village.
[00:08:48] Yeah, oh, we're still from Nuput Village, but that was the place we lived.
[00:08:53] We had a two-story house there.
[00:08:55] Mm-hmm.
[00:08:56] And me and my mom went down to the casino, which is maybe 30 miles away.
[00:09:02] We went to the casino, and we were there.
[00:09:05] And finally decided to come home.
[00:09:07] But it was like 3 o'clock in the morning.
[00:09:10] And it's a big circle of, you know, like a housing circle.
[00:09:15] Mm-hmm.
[00:09:16] And in the middle, there was this old rickety playground.
[00:09:22] And my life was facing straight towards it when I pulled in.
[00:09:28] And I got out, and I started hearing circus music.
[00:09:30] And I'm all like, what the hell's going on?
[00:09:33] And I look at my life, and there's this clown dancing and doing flips and everything right at that playground.
[00:09:42] Wow.
[00:09:43] Wow.
[00:09:44] Wow.
[00:09:44] See, I was told that he comes after people that are lost or kids that try to commit suicide are sad and not doing too good.
[00:09:56] Yeah, so I was stuck there, and my mom's like yanking me and saying, come on, let's go into the clown.
[00:10:02] Because he's seen there a lot.
[00:10:03] A lot of people have seen him.
[00:10:06] Oh, dang.
[00:10:10] I want to say I heard another story about that, but it was on this lady.
[00:10:17] She was last night, or wait, what was that?
[00:10:20] A couple, about three days ago maybe?
[00:10:22] I don't remember.
[00:10:23] This past week sometime this lady was talking, and she was having people write stories into her, and she was reading them.
[00:10:30] And she read one back from, it sounds really similar to what you're saying, that her, one of the girls that wrote in said that her friend's boyfriend,
[00:10:45] it was something kind of far off like that, like her friend's boyfriend was running.
[00:10:49] And there's one kind of like housing subdivision, I guess, and then there's this path to another one.
[00:10:57] And he went out running, jogging on that, and he could hear rustling in a brush, and he didn't know what that was.
[00:11:07] It kind of scared him.
[00:11:08] He thought maybe there was dogs or, you know, something out there.
[00:11:11] But as he kept running, he could hear it still in the brush, and he stopped kind of closer to those other houses,
[00:11:18] and he looks back because it was in the brush like right by him.
[00:11:22] And what came out was one of those clowns, and it was on its, like doing a handstand, but looking up at him all weird,
[00:11:32] you know, like his head's all kind of cocked up looking at him.
[00:11:36] And he could hear this giggling the whole time, and he started walking really fast on his hands like he was chasing him.
[00:11:44] And the guy, I guess, just ran to their house and got away, but I've heard something like that too.
[00:11:51] Yeah, that's scary.
[00:11:53] When I saw it, I couldn't believe it.
[00:11:55] You know, I was just stuck there.
[00:11:58] You know, I live in the city, but I go home a lot to the reservation.
[00:12:01] And in the city, you really don't see things like that.
[00:12:04] And if you do, it's kind of explainable, you know?
[00:12:07] Yeah.
[00:12:08] But you go home and you see something like that, and it's like in the middle of the night, 3 o'clock in the morning,
[00:12:14] there's no really anybody out.
[00:12:16] It's dark.
[00:12:17] Like, it is really dark in the middle of that circle, right?
[00:12:21] And I have my lights on, and it's playing music, and it's doing flips and dancing.
[00:12:26] It just, it was weird.
[00:12:29] Oh.
[00:12:30] So, how about that, is there any more stories that you know of it?
[00:12:37] The car or the clown?
[00:12:39] Either one, that clown or that car.
[00:12:42] Okay, my daughter, she was getting crazy partying.
[00:12:46] Mm-hmm.
[00:12:47] And she said in the middle of the night, she was walking along, and then she started hearing the engine real loud coming.
[00:12:54] You know how cars sound like they have a real big engine?
[00:12:57] Yeah.
[00:12:59] She said she was walking, and it was dark.
[00:13:01] It was on a, one of the craziest roads we have up in Wyoming, which they call 17 Mile.
[00:13:07] There's a lot of stories on that road there.
[00:13:11] But, um, she said she was walking on 17 Mile.
[00:13:16] Yeah.
[00:13:16] And then all of a sudden, this car pulls up next to her, and it's that black, uh, hearse.
[00:13:23] She said it was a hearse.
[00:13:25] Yeah.
[00:13:26] You know, real fancy and everything.
[00:13:27] Yeah.
[00:13:28] And that driver opened up that door, and he says, well, I'm here to pick you up.
[00:13:33] And she's like, I'm not getting in that car.
[00:13:36] And he says, well, you know, and he's like, let me give you a ride.
[00:13:40] And she's like, no.
[00:13:41] He's like, come on, I'm here for you.
[00:13:44] And she's like, no, I'm not getting in that car.
[00:13:46] She said she had the eeriest feeling.
[00:13:48] Like, she got scared.
[00:13:49] She could feel all that hair stand up.
[00:13:51] She knew something was wrong.
[00:13:52] But to me, what she told me was, Mom, she said, if you ever met the devil, she said, that's
[00:13:58] how I felt.
[00:13:58] Like, I just need the devil himself.
[00:14:01] Hmm.
[00:14:02] Yeah, she said.
[00:14:03] And then she was walking, and he, like, you know, the car kept following her and following
[00:14:07] her.
[00:14:08] But it had, like, a green tint under the car.
[00:14:11] I don't know how she explained it, like, alive or something.
[00:14:14] Yeah.
[00:14:15] When she turned to look, she said he looked like a, she don't even know, she don't remember
[00:14:20] how he looked, but he wasn't a clown.
[00:14:23] She said, and then when it started getting mad because he wouldn't get in, he started
[00:14:28] turning into a clown, and he was just growling at her, growling.
[00:14:33] Hmm.
[00:14:33] Yeah.
[00:14:34] She came up to the first house that she saw.
[00:14:37] She ran into that driveway, and she went and knocked on her door, and they let her in,
[00:14:41] but that car sat out there for a good while.
[00:14:43] So...
[00:14:45] How does it look?
[00:14:47] Does it look the same way each time when it's in the clown form?
[00:14:51] I don't know.
[00:14:53] I have stories of it on the Facebook page that I have, the ghost stories, the original
[00:15:02] ghost stories from the Raiders.
[00:15:03] Yeah.
[00:15:03] There's a couple other people that have brought up the clown.
[00:15:06] I'm going to have to ask them.
[00:15:08] But I know there's a clown also up in South Dakota.
[00:15:12] They talk about it, and it helps those teens, like, commit suicide, too.
[00:15:18] Hey, that's...
[00:15:18] Takes a lot of lives.
[00:15:19] Sorry to cut you off, but that's where that lady was from that was telling a story about
[00:15:24] the clown.
[00:15:25] Yeah.
[00:15:27] Yeah.
[00:15:27] I heard some stories from people up there that told me that they drive around on a black,
[00:15:32] like a black car.
[00:15:33] A fancy old-time black car.
[00:15:36] And my daughter said it was fancy old, and it looked like a hearse.
[00:15:42] Dang, that lady described it, um...
[00:15:45] It looked like the Joker on the playing cards, you know, it has that funny hat on?
[00:15:49] Yeah.
[00:15:50] That's how they...
[00:15:51] She described, uh...
[00:15:52] Well, her friend was telling her the story, but that's how she described it.
[00:15:57] See, I wasn't that close.
[00:15:58] I was, uh...
[00:16:00] Maybe it was a good, like, maybe a few hundred yards away, you know?
[00:16:06] Yeah.
[00:16:06] I couldn't see the face, but I knew it had black, like, it was half black and half white.
[00:16:11] Oh, oh, oh.
[00:16:14] Yeah.
[00:16:14] Oh, that's creepy.
[00:16:16] Oh, oh.
[00:16:18] Yeah, it was scary.
[00:16:19] I couldn't explain it.
[00:16:21] To this day, I still can't explain it.
[00:16:24] But my mom seemed to, right by our house, our neighbor had a trampoline, and that thing
[00:16:31] was dancing on that trampoline in the middle of the night.
[00:16:34] She said the dogs kept barking, and she wanted to go get mad at whatever it was.
[00:16:39] You know how old Native people are?
[00:16:40] They'll go get mad at it and tell her, get the hell out of here.
[00:16:43] Yeah.
[00:16:43] Yeah.
[00:16:44] And so she went to go do that.
[00:16:46] And she walked outside because I couldn't say nothing.
[00:16:50] She said, I got scared, and I came right back in.
[00:16:52] She said there was a clown dancing on that trampoline.
[00:16:56] Dang.
[00:16:59] Yeah.
[00:17:00] So that thing is seen quite often back there on the Wind River is, huh?
[00:17:06] Yeah.
[00:17:07] Yeah.
[00:17:08] And does, uh...
[00:17:12] How about that car?
[00:17:13] Does that...
[00:17:14] Is that car the same way that people see?
[00:17:16] That car that has people in there that have passed away?
[00:17:19] Yeah.
[00:17:20] I'm pretty sure that everyone who drives in there is a real fancy black car.
[00:17:26] And it's...
[00:17:27] They always like...
[00:17:28] Okay, so my sister, she was fasting with a couple other women.
[00:17:35] And my uncle went up there, and he was talking to them.
[00:17:38] And he said, did you guys hear the car last night?
[00:17:40] And he said, yeah.
[00:17:42] That car was out there trying to stop them from fasting and praying and stuff.
[00:17:47] Yeah.
[00:17:48] And they said that.
[00:17:49] They described it as the same car.
[00:17:50] Fancy black car.
[00:17:55] Dang.
[00:17:55] Hmm.
[00:17:56] What would you call that car?
[00:17:58] Like a death car or something?
[00:18:00] You know what?
[00:18:01] That's what I was thinking.
[00:18:03] Because, I mean...
[00:18:05] Well, I don't know if we heard on our reservation before.
[00:18:09] And I don't know if this is going to freak a lot of people out.
[00:18:13] But our reservation made headline news in the New York Post.
[00:18:18] Okay.
[00:18:19] They even had to do a ceremony on our reservation because a lot of boys were committing suicide.
[00:18:25] Dang.
[00:18:26] And, yeah, they said it.
[00:18:28] There's a lot more to it.
[00:18:29] Maybe one day we'll sit down and I'll tell you about it.
[00:18:32] Okay.
[00:18:32] But all those boys that had committed suicide were the boys sitting in that car that he called in that night to dispatch.
[00:18:40] And they said that it had a lot to do with people doing bad things on our reservation, like devil worshiping, I guess.
[00:18:51] Yeah.
[00:18:52] Yeah.
[00:18:52] Yeah.
[00:18:53] It said that a lot of it had to do with that.
[00:18:55] And that's what caused those boys to kill themselves.
[00:19:00] Okay.
[00:19:00] That's pretty sad, huh?
[00:19:02] It is.
[00:19:03] And it's funny because every time that clown comes around or that car comes around, there's a lot of suicide.
[00:19:12] Okay.
[00:19:14] Do you think that it's there all the time or it just comes and goes?
[00:19:23] I'm glad you asked me.
[00:19:24] I think it's there all the time.
[00:19:27] Yeah.
[00:19:27] Because there's, I mean, I would never turn it away.
[00:19:31] I was raised and everything, but there's, on the reservation, there's a lot of, there's nothing much for kids to do.
[00:19:37] So the first thing they do is, you know, they see everyone else and start partying and drinking and, you know, then eventually that's the way of life, you know, for them.
[00:19:47] And there's always, I was always told by my ancestors that there's a demon that comes with that alcohol.
[00:19:53] Uh-huh.
[00:19:54] You know, there's something evil that comes with that alcohol and affects their souls or it's always around them.
[00:20:01] Yeah, so, you know, and some of those people who committed suicide, some of, you know, I mean, that's what they were doing.
[00:20:10] They were on that road where they were drinking, partying, doing whatever, you know.
[00:20:15] Yeah.
[00:20:17] Yeah.
[00:20:20] But a lot of people on my reservation, they know about, they know about this car and they know about the police officer.
[00:20:27] They know about, you know, the clown.
[00:20:31] You know, I remembered when we spoke earlier before this podcast recording, you said something about a bridge.
[00:20:40] There's a really spooky bridge.
[00:20:42] Is that bridge connected to that 17-mile place you talk about?
[00:20:46] Yeah, it's called the 17-mile bridge.
[00:20:49] Oh.
[00:20:50] Yeah.
[00:20:51] What happened out there?
[00:20:53] Or what happens out there?
[00:20:55] Mm-hmm.
[00:20:57] I don't know.
[00:20:57] A lot of people have passed away on that road.
[00:21:00] Oh, no.
[00:21:00] Yeah.
[00:21:02] Yeah.
[00:21:03] Yeah.
[00:21:32] A lot of people have passed away on that road.
[00:21:39] No, no.
[00:21:39] They were as big as they were.
[00:21:44] They're very, very close.
[00:21:46] They're very close.
[00:21:47] They're not the same thing.
[00:21:51] They're very close.
[00:21:51] I don't know.
[00:21:59] They're very close.
[00:22:00] when she left like she would be laughing at them growling you know telling them that she wasn't
[00:22:07] going to leave before she's going to see them again and just other things like that yeah so
[00:22:13] we had to go get they had to go get clen and stalk her yeah you know but yeah that's that's one of
[00:22:21] the stories another one they see um they see these dogs that walk on their hind legs and they laugh
[00:22:29] at you and talk to you stuff like that yeah i got one that i from that road i'm not gonna i'm gonna
[00:22:42] change names because it was my cousin yeah and he used to drink a lot but he said that he's he's picked
[00:22:50] up the devil on that road we'll call him john okay but he said he was driving one night when
[00:22:58] he said that uh you know this guy was walking and he said i thought i recognized i thought i knew
[00:23:06] so i picked him up and all we did was drink he said it seemed like we went straight like for a week
[00:23:12] straight and he said i never had money that whole time never had nothing but whatever i wanted he
[00:23:19] would give me anything i wanted to give me but he said so one night i passed out and he said man i was
[00:23:27] just getting tired of just you know partying and he said i came through and i called that guy i said
[00:23:32] i think i just want to right now you know go straight and that thing told him you know it's too late
[00:23:38] i already got you you already given me everything you have he said including your soul he said you
[00:23:45] know you're mine and so after that my cousin he really went downhill and he he lost his life
[00:23:57] yeah there's so much of that that alcohol because that you know that spirit just takes takes and takes
[00:24:07] until there's nothing left including your life you know yeah yeah that's really sad and that happens a lot i
[00:24:16] mean i remember the first um one of our friends was actually a distant relative of mine but
[00:24:25] he was 30 32 years old when it took him just you know drink himself to death and that's young you know that's really young
[00:24:41] and you know i have multiple family members that have passed because of that it's yeah that spirit's
[00:24:49] really strong there are people that get away from it you know but it's not everybody does um my aunt told
[00:24:58] me a story one time that my grandpa he went to go sober up one of his well they were raised his brothers
[00:25:06] so we'll just call him his brother and he went to go sober him up see because those old timers they had
[00:25:13] uh they had a lot of land that's leased like big chunks of land you know now it's more fractionated
[00:25:22] out because of the descendants um splitting up the land or however that works so it's fractionated more but back
[00:25:30] um during those allotments that they had there was a lot they could lease out and that's how they
[00:25:43] SPIRS and anyways uh my grandpa finally went to go i guess he would go take him from his house and bring
[00:25:52] him to town and sober him up and he went out there to go check on him and he's seen him in his room and
[00:25:58] he was passed out in there sleeping so he went back through his house and he he spilled out every bottle
[00:26:05] he knew all his hiding places too he spilled out every bottle got everything out of there you know and
[00:26:11] cleaned up and then he went back in there and he was waking him up he says come on now let's go to
[00:26:16] town he says uh you've had enough this is enough now sober you up for a little bit come on you can
[00:26:23] stay at my house and anyways uh he woke up and he he told him i'll go with you he says but uh
[00:26:31] let me just have one more drink um go out to that table uh there's a man that brings me a bottle
[00:26:36] every day he puts it on that table will you go get it for me told him no he says i i already
[00:26:42] spilled everything out there's nothing here he said just go just go look and so he went out there and
[00:26:49] sure enough there was a brand new bottle right there and he knows he you know he cleaned that
[00:26:54] whole place out and i don't know what happened after that if he like gave it to him or what
[00:27:01] but anyways he ended up taking him he came with him and he sobered him up but that man went on to be a
[00:27:08] a spiritual leader or people call him medicine men and he he led his the rest of his life like that
[00:27:18] that's how he he lived and he helped a lot of people he helped a lot of people he was really a
[00:27:25] kind man and uh my aunt tells me that those those bad ones knew that he was going to become something
[00:27:34] good like that so they were really trying their hardest to stop him from succeeding but there are
[00:27:40] those that get away you know there are those that get away well i told you about the hat man yeah
[00:27:48] yeah that that happened to me it's like um i was partying a lot i you know i i um if i had my girls
[00:27:58] i i was in college i was doing good i was going to criminal justice then i started hanging out with
[00:28:05] some old friends and they're always like well let's go party so i you know and on the weekends i'd be
[00:28:13] like okay well let's go didn't have nothing you know to do my mom would watch my kids so i started
[00:28:19] going down the 17 mile by myself and you know a lot of people don't travel that travel that 17 mile
[00:28:25] by themselves especially at night they always try to get someone to ride with them yeah yeah
[00:28:31] i was driving and it was winter time and the window started popping up with ice like it started
[00:28:38] getting icy so i got out to scrape the ice on the outside because that's where it goes right
[00:28:43] mm-hmm no the ice was on the inside with the heat the heat was working the deep house was working
[00:28:50] but on the windshield there was like a it was real thick with ice on the inside
[00:28:56] but it was a two-feeder truck and i could feel something playing with my hair
[00:29:03] like it just gave me chills like someone was rubbing my head or something
[00:29:07] and i it was right by that bridge and uh so i i started driving i it was like i was in a fog
[00:29:17] anyway i ended up at my cousin's house and she's like oh you got here quick but i don't remember
[00:29:22] any of it right yeah so we go and he's like what's wrong with you and i said nothing i'm all right you
[00:29:30] know and i i tried to explain to her what happened he said there's something wrong with me she said i
[00:29:35] just don't have a good feeling and usually she's the one who will party before i ever do and she
[00:29:41] says i'm gonna stay sober tonight i'm gonna watch you right so she stood sober and i we went to a bar
[00:29:49] and we ran into some more friends and the guy he was like man he's like something's wrong with you
[00:29:55] i don't know what's wrong with you but i'm gonna follow you home you know after the bar but while
[00:30:01] we were sitting here my cousin kept telling me something's wrong with you and don't drink no
[00:30:05] more and every time she told me that something felt like it would look like it should get pushed
[00:30:11] finally the final you know i'd probably say right when they called bass call she said you're not going
[00:30:17] to get another drink as soon as she said that something kicked her chair and she went flying
[00:30:22] across the whole dance floor okay and yeah like she flew over and everyone looked at her like
[00:30:31] but no one cared because they just started drinking again you know it was a weird night
[00:30:37] so we start driving home and she's like well don't drop me off at home i'm gonna go stay with you
[00:30:42] because i just have a bad feeling and so we get to the bridge again right where the bridge was
[00:30:48] and the windows start icing over again and she started freaking out because she saw that it was
[00:30:54] from the inside so she was like man what is going on and the guys they followed us too and he put
[00:31:02] he pulled over behind me and he's like hey he's like you have three people sitting in that cab
[00:31:08] but there's only me and her he's like from behind there's three people in your cab and i'm like
[00:31:17] you don't know there's nobody here so they followed us home and they told my mom what was going on
[00:31:22] so my mom kind of smudged us you know told us to go to bed we did after that i start getting mean and
[00:31:30] angry and you know just start beating not me so one day one weekend my mom said um
[00:31:38] your aunt wants you to come down to sweat and something kept whispering to me you don't you don't
[00:31:46] go you're not going to that sweat maybe that's what they want they're trying to trick you into going
[00:31:51] to a sweat and i kept telling her no i don't want to go and i mean they pretty much hog tied me and took
[00:31:58] me to my aunt i get there and both my aunts are there they pulled me into the sweat they were doctoring me
[00:32:07] and uh everyone in there got scared because i guess i was on all fours growling and trying to attack people
[00:32:18] dang and uh so yeah they were scared my aunts and them told me they were scared too whatever was in
[00:32:25] me strong so they opened up that sweat and they said you know we're gonna doctor you in front of
[00:32:32] everyone we haven't done this in like they'd said maybe 20 30 40 years but it's real serious because
[00:32:39] my heart was racing so bad like i was gonna have a heart attack and so they pulled some stuff out of me
[00:32:48] and made me go home well three o'clock in the morning both of them woke up with something choking them
[00:32:55] and they both live like 40 miles away from each other and they look up and it's the hat man
[00:33:03] and he told them yeah he told them that if i go back to the ways like drinking partying doing all
[00:33:10] that crazy stuff that he was gonna have my soul so yeah i believe there's those really bad ones out
[00:33:17] there those really wicked ones out there and that's what they want geez you know it's really
[00:33:26] just since i've been doing this podcast it's i've noticed it's kind of rare for people to see that
[00:33:32] hat man when they're awake too and i i've always wondered if that i don't know has more
[00:33:39] significance or what because most people see them when they're paralyzed you know yeah and they can't move
[00:33:47] well you know and after that i i listened to them for a while and then i came back to benver here
[00:33:53] mm-hmm and i have a friend she's a she's a blonde like blonde hair blue eye friend yeah and she called
[00:34:00] me one night and she's like um i i didn't know what to tell you she said but there's this big tall
[00:34:06] thing outside your door it has a fedora hat a trench coat she says but i can't see the face it's so dark
[00:34:13] she said but you've been standing there for a while and i was like oh my god you know i start smudging and
[00:34:20] stuff but i guess it followed her home and she said that she got scared because she could hear hugs
[00:34:27] like you know like a horse clop clop clop she could hear that follow her home
[00:34:35] yeah she said it it scared her and we call that one the goat man
[00:34:42] the goat man yeah yeah i read i was when i was listening to your podcast um i guess he's a police
[00:34:49] officer right yeah one of my friends that's seen it was a police officer yeah yeah he was uh she she
[00:34:56] was scared and it scared me to her gaming skills because you know you don't hear someone call you
[00:35:02] up especially in the city hey you got someone sent outside your door you know and when you know him from
[00:35:08] the riz you know but on my page people all over the world have seen the hat man yeah yeah he is he's
[00:35:21] everywhere and that's what i'm saying it's like see because um okay well i make a distinction myself
[00:35:30] so that goat man is one thing and it's it's always around like alcohol and stuff
[00:35:36] and i suspect it's some sort of an alcohol spirit um or you know people use the word demon too but
[00:35:43] i think it's some sort of an alcohol spirit whereas that other hat man might just be a shadow
[00:35:50] he might um you know be at the end of your bed when you're sleeping and you can't move you wake up and see
[00:35:56] him or something like that but i think that's a different type of spirit but the one thing they have in
[00:36:02] common is they wear a hat and sometimes that trench coat too but the other one has hoofs
[00:36:09] that's attracted to the alcohol you know the people that consume alcohol that one has hoofs and i i think
[00:36:16] it's more scarier to tell you the truth i think there's a distinction though between the two
[00:36:23] yeah yeah i don't know that it it stuck with me it's still here with me like i before i do things
[00:36:30] i start thinking about it because you know what i went through at that time it took a lot out of me it took a lot from me
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[00:37:41] being doctor do you remember like growling and stuff like that i don't remember that that was the
[00:37:49] thing but it was like i was asleep inside my body and i couldn't control it yeah yeah i don't know how
[00:37:57] to explain because i i asked myself too like i would never do that you know i would never be on all fours
[00:38:03] growling and like scratching at the ground
[00:38:07] but yeah they told me about it when i got out they're the ones who told me what happened
[00:38:15] and it jumped in you yeah yeah yeah oh dang
[00:38:23] but i just thank god that my young people around um one's gone now i just really appreciate her and
[00:38:30] rest in peace you know yeah dang but that's why oh go ahead sorry no go ahead i was just gonna ask but
[00:38:42] you just felt like you were asleep because i'm curious like what was that uh sensation i guess if
[00:38:48] there was one it just felt like you were asleep that was it well i don't know how to explain it it's
[00:38:54] like you're there you you know something's happening but something took over your body you can't control it
[00:39:01] you know like you can't i don't know it's like you're in a dream almost i guess that's what i
[00:39:08] should think instead of asleep it's like you're in a dream oh okay yeah oh geez yeah oh well but
[00:39:20] that's the big reason why i started the original ghost stories from the rest because i was like this
[00:39:25] man just happened to me you know i know there's other people out there with stories and i want to
[00:39:30] know if anyone's been through what i've been through yeah and your page is really successful
[00:39:38] you know there's quite a few uh subscribers or members of your group and you know there's a lot
[00:39:46] of ghost stories that have gone through there and i don't know if you've ever have you ever told yours
[00:39:53] out loud like this anywhere else no well with family but family family knows too because a lot
[00:40:01] of my family's been there and they're the ones who bring it up you know and they're like do you
[00:40:06] remember this do you remember and i have to sit there and think about it and i'm like yeah you know i do
[00:40:11] and uh it's like i started the original ghost stories back in 2013. i didn't think it would go anywhere at
[00:40:21] least not this far you know yeah and it just um i think what people appreciate is they could tell their
[00:40:31] story without judging is what it is because i get rid of a lot of those people who make laughing emojis
[00:40:37] or you know make fun of people because i don't appreciate that yeah so you know i try to help
[00:40:45] people with their stories because they're just like me you know you sit there and you wonder did that really
[00:40:50] just happen to me you know or did they really just go through this or i think it helped getting it out
[00:40:59] there because there's other people who've been through something well i guess since we're on the
[00:41:07] subject of your your page uh what is some of the most um i mean i guess what stories stand out to you
[00:41:16] the most that you've read on there the one with angelo yeah angelo bullplum and he's just so
[00:41:24] everybody knows he's on the podcast and if you guys haven't listened to him i recommend you go back
[00:41:29] and and it's a long story it's like over a two-hour podcast but it's worth the lesson and yeah i'd
[00:41:36] definitely go check that out you know rod uh i have a friend down here who's on the radio station ks 107.5
[00:41:45] it's a pretty big station and she had me on there and i mentioned your lodge tells because
[00:41:51] that was the one story that stuck out to her too wow and she got on your um podcast and she listened to
[00:42:01] it too yeah yeah they that story could be a movie i swear it would make a really good movie
[00:42:10] well when he when he did it he was like um here i'll just write it out and i'll send it to you and
[00:42:15] can you post it and i said sure but i you know while i was going along i was reading and i was like
[00:42:21] oh my god like i can i can read a lot of those stories and i do it late at night because that's
[00:42:26] when i have time because i'm always busy during the day yeah but i had to put his story down
[00:42:32] and wait till the next day during that you know when the lights out and everything to read that story
[00:42:38] yeah that was a scary one man i mean and i know all those places is talking about too
[00:42:45] like all those trailers that they had out by bear paw when i drive down that way because that's where
[00:42:50] you have to go to the to the boarding school and my wife's aunt lives out there sometimes we go visit
[00:42:56] and every time we drive by there i look and i think all of those are moved now or sold or something
[00:43:01] because they're not how he describes them but i look in that area where they were
[00:43:08] yeah yeah that was one of the biggest ones that stood out there's a couple more um
[00:43:16] i just have to go through but there is a lot of good stories on there when they start getting
[00:43:21] to the story at night i put them down you know stop reading them and you know wait till the next day but
[00:43:28] there is i you know because like i said i go through and i moderate well i have i have really good
[00:43:34] moderators that watch my um page too because you know i don't want people to put a post a story and
[00:43:42] then be laughed at i don't i don't you know that's disrespectful so you know i'm always on it trying to watch it
[00:43:50] so i think that's a big reason why they're paid these successful because you know they feel that
[00:43:56] respect that people have you know yeah when you asked me to post a couple of my podcast episodes
[00:44:03] on there i picked a few and i put them on and they run me out there they thought i was some scammer or
[00:44:09] something yeah they and i had to tell them no that's you know i said that's rod he has large
[00:44:17] you know large health and so they were like oh okay i should have told them before but you know
[00:44:24] and then you got me you know i i guess i invited the war cry yeah a war cry podcast yeah yeah i invited
[00:44:32] him too and he's positive the one with you and him oh cool yeah i mean yeah for us podcasters to your
[00:44:42] your page um to any of the i guess i'll direct this to your audience to any of the people that
[00:44:48] submit stories to the ghost stories from the res if if at any time you want to tell your stories aloud
[00:44:56] just email me at lodgetales at gmail.com and we'll see what we can do and get you on the podcast
[00:45:02] because you know lawan i think that a lot of times people do want to tell the stories like for me
[00:45:08] i would rather tell the story because for one i mean i don't mind typing it out i really don't but i
[00:45:17] prefer just to tell the story in my own words you know yeah and i think some people are like that too i
[00:45:24] think there's some out there that they since they have to write it they almost don't want to or it
[00:45:31] might be too long you know because some of these stories are really long these experiences that have
[00:45:36] happened to people like angelo's story i mean what is it on your page like a seven part something
[00:45:43] like that you know there's a lot of parts to it yeah he had to um he would take some time and it
[00:45:48] you know be a little bit of time before the next part and all my readers would be like when's the
[00:45:54] second part coming out when's this coming out you know and i was the same way i'd be like i wish
[00:46:00] he'd heard because i want to get to it it's like almost like you know a book but let me get let me
[00:46:05] get to the next part because it got interesting it's scary but it was interesting you know it's well
[00:46:11] written too you know it is how he writes yeah yeah he puts you right there like you're right there with
[00:46:18] him mm-hmm i mean they have a lot too uh they've done multiple episodes on lodge tales so if you guys
[00:46:30] are interested in some of angelo's stories other than that main one he told which is really a good one
[00:46:36] him and his wife tell more stories too about different places we have something similar to 17 mile
[00:46:44] called seven mile seven mile lane and his wife and him they they lived out near there they lived there
[00:46:53] like she lived right right where it ends you go up the road a little ways i mean she must have lived
[00:46:58] about two miles from it and angelo lived out that way too when they were younger and so they have a lot
[00:47:05] of stories other stories of that too and they have stories about what they call this uh death spirit that
[00:47:13] walked into their daughter's room one time and and she really got sick it was a it was a big struggle
[00:47:19] she talks of a little person that used to bother around their house in town
[00:47:23] but they have a lot so if you guys are interested in that go check that out too but uh
[00:47:28] i guess changing gears here since i mentioned little people do you have stories about them
[00:47:33] i have family who have stories about them um one of my nieces she's she's had issues with them and
[00:47:43] she's part of that um and then i i would say women and children but it's people now you know
[00:47:52] she's a she's a big part of that she's one of the directors for that
[00:47:56] but yeah she has stories where she lives where she lives now and i guess it has to do with the little
[00:48:02] people i'll have to ask her and then i'll have her get a hold of you oh okay but with the little people i know
[00:48:10] my grandma always told me that you know they're uh almost protect them there was a story up in wyoming where uh
[00:48:21] this guy got lost he was a um game warden he got lost and got turned around in our in our woods
[00:48:30] and uh he said that he was just sitting there and these little people came up to him
[00:48:37] and they said come with us you know follow us and he was kind of scared you know real apprehensive because
[00:48:43] you hear those stories where some of them are bad you know and he was a little scared and he seen this
[00:48:49] little little this little person lift the deer above above him and carry it with one arm like it was
[00:48:55] nothing you know but he went and i guess it was late at night so he went with them and he said their cap
[00:49:03] it was just like a cap you know they had two feet and some that and they fed him he went to sleep and
[00:49:10] here next morning they showed him how to get out of the mountain
[00:49:14] oh really was he a native guy yeah he was native yeah yeah he's native but she always used to tell me
[00:49:24] if i go to the mountains and you pick up something rock quick whatever yeah he said you uh you need
[00:49:30] something shiny so my cousin he took me to the mountains one time we're gonna go fishing and i was
[00:49:37] right uh well this hawk fell out of the tree and broke its arm so i went to go get some uh that driftwood
[00:49:45] for it and where we went he said be careful because there's little people here and so i was like okay
[00:49:53] and uh while we were going up there there was this bush i looked in there and there was a little
[00:49:59] medicine pouch hanging from there hey when i seen that i just left some coins and i told him let's go
[00:50:07] oh yeah but i didn't see anything else just that little pouch yeah what do they say they look like
[00:50:16] where you're from i don't know how to explain like how tall are they not very tall at all like
[00:50:26] they're small like small yeah because from i don't know oh sorry i didn't mean to cut you off
[00:50:34] no i was just gonna say i you have you ever watched youtube where you see those little people
[00:50:39] running around like maybe even a foot high yeah yep yeah that's what she said they're like like that
[00:50:47] a foot high like that yeah that's what they look like around here and you know around the blackfeet
[00:50:54] res is they're about a foot tall and they look like old indians you know they're just they dress the
[00:51:00] old ways yeah that's what she said she said they would still you know like they still uh
[00:51:07] we what she told me one time was one of her cousins saw them and that that little person was riding i think
[00:51:14] she said a fox like a horse please yeah yeah in our tribe they're known to turn into coyotes so they could
[00:51:25] travel faster yeah yeah they can shape shift or whatever and well in those old stories that's what
[00:51:34] they did um they would sing this song and when they were done singing that song they would be coyotes
[00:51:40] yeah and recently as in oh geez four years ago i'm not gonna say his name but somebody i knew
[00:51:49] i didn't even want to give away what his relation is to me but somebody i knew um he's really private
[00:51:56] about things like that but and one of his uh dreams and he he really dreams powerful this guy he's there's
[00:52:08] really something i wish i could get him to come on and tell some of his stories man it would really be
[00:52:13] fascinating for a lot of people including myself but in this one dream he had um he was describing this
[00:52:21] lodge this big lodge and there was this big bull elk in that lodge and of course these are all spirits
[00:52:30] he's dreaming of and uh there's a person that had to walk into that lodge and here outside standing
[00:52:38] there in the snow was a bunch of you know regular small elk but that that big elk was inside that
[00:52:45] lodge i'm big i'm talking like you know it's heads up to like 12 13 feet high you know like big big kind
[00:52:54] uh elk that he was dreaming of well anyways outside was regular size elk and there was uh these there
[00:53:03] were some coyotes too that were standing amongst their feet but some of those coyotes would walk
[00:53:09] and when they'd go in between those trees and their feet it would turn into little people
[00:53:13] and come out the other side the other tree there'd be a coyote again
[00:53:19] yeah so i mean even up to this day people still dream of them and you know know that they where i
[00:53:28] grew up at there's a lot of there's there's little people out where i grew up at and i mean i swear
[00:53:34] sometimes like i've asked my brother i said do you think you know knowing what we know about them
[00:53:41] do you think some of those are are those little people he says man i wouldn't put it past it at all
[00:53:46] he said because sometimes how they he says i know how they sound we grew up around them i said yeah
[00:53:52] he said they don't they just don't sound right it's almost like they're laughing
[00:53:58] yeah that's what my grandma said you know they're around because they she said they sound like little
[00:54:04] kids almost like giggling she said i don't know how to clean it because there was a white guy up there
[00:54:10] he used to go into the mountains and he would get those arrowheads he'd pick them home and then he
[00:54:18] went to uh one of uh this elder man who was a medicine man they went to them and they said hey
[00:54:25] there's stuff going on in my house i don't know what's wrong but at the same time my that guy who would
[00:54:32] say uh well you know what are you doing where are you going what are you doing and he would tell me
[00:54:37] well i'm gonna go get those arrowheads he said no he's like you don't do that he's like you don't
[00:54:43] whatever's there you leave there you don't ever take anything home you know it's just leave it and he
[00:54:49] says well okay he said you should take it back he said because i know what's going on in the house
[00:54:54] it's those little people coming for them and so he took them and he took them back to where he was
[00:55:00] finding them and everything stopped in his house nothing happened again yeah yeah because he said that
[00:55:11] he would find little little arrowheads like like a fingernail size you know he said he didn't know how
[00:55:19] they were getting done and stuff but that's what he was doing is picking up arrowheads and stuff like that
[00:55:25] yeah have you watched that series of res dogs yeah yeah about that part when they're all having bad
[00:55:35] luck and everyone goes oh yeah and so-and-so got shot by a little people arrow yeah yeah
[00:55:42] no i just loved it me it was uh so when i first started this page it was called uh ghost stories
[00:55:50] from the res but some guy a pakistani guy from um canada stole my page but yeah but before that even
[00:56:02] my daughter she was really into uh hearing stories about the deer woman so we had her the picture of a
[00:56:09] deer woman she drew her and put her on my page now i have the hat man but you know it was uh a lot of it
[00:56:16] had like she was watching the red dogs remember deer woman's on there yeah yeah well she was really
[00:56:22] interested in that oh that's too bad that guy stole your how did he how did he do that he just start uh
[00:56:32] he put up another page he stole my pictures um oh i see yeah yeah he did all that and he just started
[00:56:39] saying that he was the creator and all that so i i tried to reach out to facebook they didn't do anything
[00:56:46] so i just started working one and then i just i guess that's why my uh moderators are really on it
[00:56:52] because they don't want it to happen again because you know my people depend on me to keep their
[00:56:58] because a lot of them draw pictures to go with their stories you know and then share their artwork
[00:57:04] they share their stories and they're real passionate about it so i try to you know keep it where it's like
[00:57:12] safe i try you know i try my hardest but there's always some bad apple out there who tries to do
[00:57:19] something are there any other stories that you could think of that uh you know like i'm talking
[00:57:27] anything like bigfoot or or just like what's the scariest story that you've heard in your family or
[00:57:34] or even back on your res i can tell you my scary stories um my whole family has scary stories we would be
[00:57:43] here for years but my scariest story um it really bothered me so you know um there was this priest that
[00:57:55] used to come to my uh grandma's and give her communion because she was an older lady she couldn't leave
[00:58:00] you know so he would come every time and we knew him real good his name was uh father packard
[00:58:08] and uh rest in peace you know he was a really good man he was one of the greatest men i've ever known
[00:58:13] and that's crazy because i'm not really into catholicism because of what they did to our people you know
[00:58:18] yeah but my grandma she was strong catholic so uh he would come give her uh communion and so he was
[00:58:29] giving her communion and he walked in that day and my sister had the exorcist on to me right yeah so
[00:58:37] he walked in and he turned gold's gold blood i mean he was already really pale because he was an old
[00:58:43] gentleman but i mean all the blood left him and he fell back into the chair and my mom started
[00:58:50] constantly turn that da da da da da off you know and so we ripped and turned it off and i went got in
[00:58:57] the water and i gave it to him i said here father padberg i said what's wrong he said you know that uh
[00:59:03] movie you're watching right there he said um it's a real bad movie you know i said yeah i know
[00:59:09] you know because the exorcist lived you know and he uh he said but let me tell you something and this
[00:59:16] was back in the 80s he said i'm going to tell you something this is before anyone knew it really
[00:59:22] happened to a little boy he said that story is true he said because i was a young man in the seminary
[00:59:28] he said and that happened to that story is based on a true story about a boy he said and i was there
[00:59:34] because i guess they were going to try to train him to be a uh what are they called exorcist
[00:59:42] and he said um that really changed my life he said because i would never do that
[00:59:47] he said the things i saw would probably turn normal people's hair uh white
[00:59:55] he said that was it was awful and it was bad and he would never wish that on anybody so knowing that
[01:00:05] um i was scared you know when it came to the ouija board
[01:00:10] so i was uh i went to a friend's house and they were all partying he had a trailer house
[01:00:16] and in front of the house there was a bedroom but when you walk in the door you walk right into the
[01:00:22] living room then at the head of the house was the bedroom and from the other side it was the
[01:00:27] kitchen to bathroom to back bedroom well in his front room he had this you know those old-time
[01:00:35] beds that used to fold up with springs and stuff he had one of those up there and uh i walk in and
[01:00:43] all these people are partying stuff they said hey we're gonna play the weepy board you know got
[01:00:47] all happy and i'm all like oh no huh i ain't gonna play that i said i'll just go to the front room
[01:00:53] and go pass out so i went to go lay down and i i didn't hear nothing i closed the door and it was
[01:01:01] pretty quiet all of a sudden like on the exorcist that bed starts popping up and down with me on it
[01:01:09] like jumping up and down i started screaming and the first thing i thought of was on like that movie
[01:01:16] the exorcist remember when her bed jumping up and down yeah that's what was going on i started
[01:01:22] screaming my friend went in there and he salute me up and took me over to his grandma's and i never
[01:01:28] went back into that house again because that it scared me pretty bad but after that i would have
[01:01:34] weird things like follow me and you know like make scratches and i so i told my mom i was scared i was
[01:01:42] like god i'm gonna get possessed i was all freaked out but yeah that was probably my scariest story for me
[01:01:50] but i mean i've heard other things happen but that because that's i was young you know you don't
[01:01:57] believe in stuff like that you know yeah it happened so but yeah i have a i have a bigfoot story too
[01:02:06] oh dear that village i lived in in milpick you know it's in the middle of nowhere you know everyone
[01:02:16] used to tell me watch out for the clown watch out for the walking dogs that talk uh spirits and bigfoot
[01:02:25] uh this uh this white guy he used to um have his cow there he leaves some land right next to the
[01:02:33] milk creek village and there was always cows there he was always calling the police station up at fort
[01:02:40] washington telling them you know hey bigfoot's killing my cattle i need you guys to do something about it
[01:02:46] you know and the cops used to patrol there and walk and stuff but his cattle would always end up dead yeah
[01:02:54] he'd always have dead cattle there you know just ripped apart like that something took that down just
[01:03:00] ripped it apart or ripped the heads off okay so i didn't you know believe anything i was like yeah
[01:03:08] right bigfoot whatever so one morning um my sister said well let's get to denver early so she used to
[01:03:14] like to travel like around maybe three four o'clock in the morning sometimes five you know when the sun
[01:03:20] there like you can see the light in the morning coming out but you could see things but it's still
[01:03:25] there's still darkness yeah i walked out of the um my house to go get in the car and i had my pillow
[01:03:34] blanket because i was gonna let her drive and uh up on this hill where there's a like a little cul-de-sac
[01:03:42] in that circle i look up to that house and there's this thing that's as tall as the house it's just a
[01:03:53] single floor house but that thing was as tall as the house and its arms hung way below its knees i don't
[01:04:00] know how to explain you know it's walking and its stride was so huge like it took three steps it was already
[01:04:11] behind the house and then it came and it peeked around and looked at me and i'm looking at it like
[01:04:18] is that really happening you know because i'm the type that probably get killed in a scary movie because
[01:04:23] i'm always like is that there is that really happening like the clown is now bigfoot and i'm just sitting
[01:04:30] there staring at it you know but i finally went inside and i need to go tell my sister and my mom i think
[01:04:37] i just saw bigfoot out there and we go out there and it's dunk it's snow i don't know how to explain it
[01:04:47] like a skunk but rotten you know and all the dogs are just barking barking barking all around the village
[01:04:55] like they were barking and then you could hear one of those cows like it made an ugly scream
[01:05:03] like it just went and tore like it just got torn apart
[01:05:10] did you have any dreams oh go ahead sorry oh no go ahead i was just wondering did you have any
[01:05:16] dreams about it afterwards yeah yeah i um um i watched the movie one time about bigfoot where he
[01:05:24] starts killing people and stuff yeah so i always i was always scared you know like i don't ever want to run
[01:05:30] him again because what i seen him do like those three strides like you can't even run from them if
[01:05:36] they're gonna come at you you know and so yeah i was having dreams but i talked to my um grandma my aunt
[01:05:44] and they said well you know don't be scared they said because in our way he's he protects like he
[01:05:50] protects the mountains he protects the animals you know so it's like they'll never find things what
[01:05:57] they told me like you know how people are like well how come we can never find them and they told me
[01:06:02] they come from a like a portal there's a portal that he comes through and they're like if you ever see
[01:06:10] him just leave him alone you know tom all his way you go your way and uh i have some cousins up there
[01:06:19] that used to go to the mountains because they would bring timber down and they would watch my kids and i would
[01:06:24] hear my kids tell me stories like mom we saw a family bigfoot today you know and it's like what did
[01:06:32] you guys do oh auntie and uncle just told them to leave us alone and we'll leave them alone and they'd
[01:06:38] walk off mom you know and it was crazy just hearing stuff like that you know yeah
[01:06:48] that smell you'll never you'll never forget that smell when you know he's around though
[01:06:53] because it stunk like it smelled like a skunk but it almost smelled like rotten meat too
[01:07:00] yeah that's some other thing some people say they really have a they really smell something stink
[01:07:05] others say there's no smell and like when my wife seen one just got all quiet and you know everything
[01:07:13] got quiet it was really weird she said and um when it jumped out that tree it barely made noise
[01:07:20] because it was in a tree it was a small one though but uh afterwards she started having dreams about it
[01:07:28] you know a couple not not a lot just a few dreams so that's what i was wondering and i never did get to
[01:07:34] ask my dad if he had was having dreams about him but other people i heard him talk about it too it must
[01:07:41] i think there's more more to it than just you know it's on your mind it just happened so you're dreaming
[01:07:48] about it i think there's a little more to it than that because i don't know i almost suspect that
[01:07:54] they only showed themselves to certain people it's kind of almost what i suspect because i've never seen
[01:07:59] one so i really wonder about that it's i mean we'll never know you know i don't think but it's fun to
[01:08:07] think about i do i i wonder sometimes because i never thought i'd see especially in down i don't
[01:08:15] know how to explain down in the village you know like that i never thought i'd see it and i you know
[01:08:21] when they used to tell me about the white guy calling the police because my friends were police
[01:08:26] at the they used to tell me some stories you know and uh i never believed it like you know i i didn't
[01:08:33] think it was true you know i didn't know what to say until i saw him and i was sitting there like
[01:08:38] oh my gosh i just saw this but you know it's like wow you know and i just stepped on my mind so i
[01:08:45] think that had a big thing to do with the dreams you know but then the movie i think it's called exit
[01:08:50] or something like that where he starts ripping people apart yeah so that was kind of on my mind i
[01:08:57] didn't but he didn't when he saw me he was just like curious too you know it was weird because he
[01:09:04] was curious he peeked around that house to look at me and then he took off jeez if he had a camera
[01:09:11] he'd probably took a picture probably not i said i'm always that dumb one that gets stuck just staring
[01:09:17] forgetting to roll my camera you know oh i've seen if bigfoot had a camera he would have probably took a picture
[01:09:25] yeah he was looking at me like look at that weird one is it a real human
[01:09:31] yeah i'm gonna go show these guys they'll never believe me but i got a picture now
[01:09:37] yeah yeah but i i post a lot of funny things about bigfoot um like geez we haven't seen him
[01:09:42] for a while i hope he's doing okay and i find stuff like that because you know it's like i kind of missed
[01:09:48] it like where's bigfoot now yeah and again can you tell them where they can find your page at and
[01:09:54] and what the name is yeah it's the original ghost stories from the rez on facebook yeah that was
[01:10:04] levon rodriguez from the original ghost stories of the rez um again i would encourage everybody to
[01:10:12] to write in or to you know contact me somehow youtube you can leave a comment or whatever and
[01:10:19] if you have stories that you want to share please by all means come on we're always looking for more
[01:10:24] people to interview and you know we always look forward to hearing new stories from different
[01:10:29] people there's quite a few ghost stories that i i hear from down south um that i've never had anybody
[01:10:38] come on for like our our people from southern you know the south of the border you know those are
[01:10:46] indigenous folks as well and and i'd like to hear more about them they're little people they call
[01:10:52] duendes i'd really like to hear about those those types of stories and they have a lot they're really
[01:10:59] in touch or in tune with that spiritual side like we are too you know up north of the border so i would
[01:11:06] just like to hear more of them and the people from canada as well they have a lot of stories
[01:11:12] stories and i've never heard anybody any native yet talk about those windigo type spirits and
[01:11:19] you know from what i understand they're they're really hungry type spirit and kind of bound to this
[01:11:27] earth you know driven by hunger and whatnot so it would just be fascinating to hear a ghost story
[01:11:32] from them you know from somebody that knows one be it in your family or or you experienced yourself so
[01:11:39] you know reach out um if you're comfortable and share them with us i'd really like to hear from you guys
[01:11:47] so with that um let's go ahead and and uh end here and like i said i'm going to be getting more out
[01:11:56] so stay tuned for all of those and until next time